The Polynesian looked perfect on paper - but after their stay, Kim and her husband Tom will be looking for other options for their next visit after some real customer service let downs. Listeners can expect an honest conversation about Kim’s experience that did not live up to the expectations all of us have when it comes to staying in a Disney resort…especially at a deluxe price. But not to worry, this isn’t all complaints! Kim and Tom had a magical week that proves the best vacations are the ones that leave room for flexibility, good food, and a little people-watching.

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  • Post Trip Interview: recorded 8/10/26

 

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[00:00:11] Welcome to Where I Long To Be, a Magical Trip Report Podcast. My name is Virginia and I am your host. Thank you all for tuning in and I hope you will keep coming back for more. If you haven't left a review yet, please go ahead and do that on the app you're listening on now or through my website, which is whereilongtobepodcast.com. On today's episode, you'll hear my conversation with Kim about her recent stay at the Polynesian Resort and the Polynesian Tower with her husband, Tom, in honor of their 10th wedding anniversary.

[00:00:42] This had been a dream resort for Tom, so they were really looking forward to this vacation. And now, please welcome back Kim to the podcast. Welcome back Kim. Hi, thank you. How are you doing today? I'm good. How are you? I mean, I'm okay for a Monday. Yeah, it is. People are listening to this on a Monday, but we're actually sitting here and recording on Monday. Yes. Mondays are, you know, they're a Monday. Monday. Yeah, sure.

[00:01:12] And we were both just talking about the fact that we've got some weather in our area. So I have a puppy on my lap who is afraid of the thunder. Hopefully he'll remain calm here. But, and you had a tornado warning last time we spoke. Correct. Yep. And I have my little Lucy downstairs with me and she's in the corner shaking. So, yeah, you. She knows you're talking about the other. Poor puppies.

[00:01:42] Oh my goodness. Yeah. I'm the only person home. So I was like, he's gonna have to come in here with me because otherwise, he's just gonna be sitting in there scared all by himself and I don't want him to be scared. Well, progress. She just jumped on the couch. Oh, maybe she'll make an appearance and say hello. You want to say hi? No, no. I'm good over here. It's okay. Camera shy. That's fine. All right.

[00:02:08] Today is August the 10th and you were traveling earlier in July. So July 7th through the 14th. Correct. And we actually overlapped, but we never got to see each other on this trip, sadly. But I'm really looking forward to hearing all about this. And I think I mentioned this in the episode that was published just today.

[00:02:34] When I'm talking to somebody and, you know, I'm thinking about the dates, I'm always thinking like where was I in the world when this was happening to you? And so that'll be fun to think about as I think about my own trip. And here he goes. He's gonna get restless. So I'm gonna pause for two seconds and let him out of the room. I assume someone else has arrived home. Hold on. Okay. And I'm back. Okay. All right. So overall, how did you feel about this trip? The trip was, overall the trip was good.

[00:03:04] We ran into some hiccups, which we'll get to. Okay. Mostly involving the Polynesian. Okay. We were very excited to stay there. From the minute we got there, we realized things were a little off. All right. I'll be interested to hear more details about that. Let's start at the beginning then. Let's, let's walk through everything.

[00:03:32] And the, and the first thing that I have on my list to ask you about is you were surprising your husband, Tom, that it was no longer a split stay. Yes. Because I think you originally had a triple split states planned. We did. So how did you reveal this surprise? And how did he take it? So, um, we went Tuesday to Tuesday. Mm-hmm.

[00:03:58] And the Sunday prior to, I got so excited. We were both sitting together for a walk. And I go, I have a secret. And he looked at me, he goes, are we staying at the Polynesian the whole time? Oh. And I go, how did you know? And he goes, I, I just figured. And I was like, I go, I've been hiding this for so long from you. And he was like, and I said, are you happy? Are you excited?

[00:04:27] And he is like, yes. And I said, good. So it still was a split stay. We were in the tower for the first portion. And then, uh, so we were in the tower Tuesday until Saturday. And on Saturday, we moved over to the main buildings. Um, and then we checked out on Tuesday. So. But that's like sort of not a resort change. I mean, yes, you're changing rooms, but it's super easy, right? Yes. Yes. Okay.

[00:04:56] All right. All right. Let's talk travel. How was your flight from Boston down to MCO? Um, flight was great. So that morning I woke up to a text saying our flight had been canceled, which was a little nerve wracking because I'm not the, yeah, I'm not the best. Traveler's worst nightmare. Yes. So I, we were trying to sleep in a little bit. Um, our dogs were being picked up around nine, nine 30.

[00:05:25] We were then leaving straight from the dogs leaving. So I can plan a trip. I can book the flights. I can do all of this. I don't know what to do when my flight's canceled. So I woke Tom up and again, we were trying to sleep in a little bit. It was four o'clock and I was like, I don't know what to do. Our flight's been canceled. And he was like, okay. I'm like, thanks for the help.

[00:05:51] So I checked my email and I got like a wonky email saying your flight's been canceled. Your flight's been rescheduled. Your flight's been canceled. So I called the airline and I said, I, I don't know what I'm reading. I said, because I'm getting a cancellation. I'm getting a rebooking. I'm getting a cancellation. So the flight had been rebooked, which was great. So that was helpful because, and it was at the same time or right around the same time, which was good.

[00:06:19] Um, I learned when we, when we got on the plane to take off, there was, um, a flight attendant who was sitting next to us. And he said that the plane that we got moved to had 10 less seats. So because of that, they had to rebook the people who were on that flight because they couldn't move us all to, um, the same flight basically. So I mean, I wouldn't have known that.

[00:06:46] So I was very thankful that the flight was actually had forgotten that my flight got, um, canceled until you just asked me. But, um, I was very thankful that it was rescheduled for me because that it's just, it's not something that I have had to do. So I, I wouldn't know the proper steps to take to ensure that we would get out and get out, you know, at a reasonable time to get there and all of that. So. Mm hmm. Yeah.

[00:07:15] I've had it before where I've had a flight canceled and you have to click something to go pick a new flight and the stress of clicking it fast enough and trying to make a choice fast enough, knowing that every other single person on the flight is also doing the same thing so that you can get the best flight. It is so nerve wracking. I absolutely lose my mind when that happens.

[00:07:43] So it's nice that it was taken care of for you and it was not that big a difference in the time that you were leaving. No. And it sounds a little silly. Like I can book a trip. I know how to do all of that, but with the pressure and the stress of it. Yeah. You know, it's like your first day on earth. You have no brain. You don't really know. You know what I mean? You don't really know what to do. So. Um, so anyway, so our flight was great.

[00:08:11] We had a, we had a really good flight, both and both directions, but, um, we landed in Orlando around four. Um, our flight took off after one. So, um, it was, which when we, when we spoke originally, you thought you'd land at 430. So that's even landing early. So. Yeah. And I might've been off on that original call. It was, you know, I knew it was around that time, but. Well, you were, you were dealing with a potential tornado coming through while we were talking.

[00:08:39] So, you know, fair enough. I see. Um, so when we landed, I turned my phone back on, um, and I had a text saying my room was ready, which was great. Fantastic. Yep. So, um, we didn't know if we were going to take a, an Uber or Lyft or if we were going to take Mears. Um, I walked down to Mears and I asked how long it would take. And she was like, Oh, probably a half hour.

[00:09:10] And I was like, I'm going to get a Lyft. So we called the Lyft and, and we went to the hotel from there. So, um, so when I got the text that our room was ready, I looked it up on, um, touring plans. Mm-hmm. See, because we had reserved a preferred view. Mm-hmm.

[00:09:32] And this is why I said that I wasn't overly thrilled with the Polynesian. Okay. Okay. So we booked a specific room category. Um, you pay the extra money for said room category and you're not given the room category. So our room was 8619, which was on the sixth floor of the tower.

[00:10:01] And we had a view of a parking lot. Mm-hmm. So I stopped at guest service. So once we got to the Polynesian, before we went to our room, I stopped at guest services because like I said, we had reserved a preferred view. Um, they were less than helpful. And I'm sorry. Can I pause one second and ask you, was it preferred view or was it preferred location? Preferred view.

[00:10:31] Because it said the word view in it. Yes. Yep. Okay. Because I know some preferred rooms in resorts, it's based on location. So it's like proximity to the main whatever. Yep. So no, because it was, um, what are the, I think it's like standard isn't the word, but it's like a standard view. Garden view. Garden view. Garden view. Garden view. Garden view. Yeah.

[00:11:00] And I wasn't paying for theme park view because it was very, very expensive. And I was like, oh, this is a reasonable in between. So I, I booked that. So I've been to Disney many times. I've never really had to stop and say, hey, something's not right. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. And as a former cast member, even though it was the college program, you know, the level

[00:11:28] and standard of service that Disney provides. Right. Mm hmm. Right. And I, I just, I wasn't rude. I had my be nice to cast members t shirt on. I was following my mantra. I'm not going to be rude anyway. What's the point? It's not going to get anyone anywhere. It's going to ruin someone's day. I deal with the public. Like, trust me, I, I, I'm not one that's going to go in all huffy. It's not my style.

[00:11:54] So I went up to the girl and I was like, hi, I was like, I got my room text. I said, we reserved a preferred view. And I just went through the, the situation. And she was like, well, I can't help you. I was like, well, can somebody else. So her manager looked in the computer and she was like, yep. Like she could see that we had reserved the preferred view. And she's like, I don't have one for you. And she said, yeah, exactly.

[00:12:22] She said the parking lot is considered a preferred view because it's on the sixth floor. And I said, well, that doesn't make any sense to me. It doesn't make any sense. Well, yes. No. So you understand my frustration from the start. So I was like, okay. Okay. So they weren't able to honor the reserved view.

[00:12:51] And they basically shrugged their shoulders. And we had just gotten there. As much as you don't want your vacation to start off on the wrong foot. I, I had a bad taste in my mouth just from the start. Mm hmm. Them trying to convince us that that was a preferred view. I'm not done. It feels a little gaslighty. Yes.

[00:13:15] And Tom, Tom, I mean, he, he doesn't have anything to do with the, the booking or the planning, you know? So he's like, all right, we're going to go to a room. But he knew that I was annoyed because I was like, I, not to sound spoiled, but I was like, it's our 10 year anniversary. Let's, you know, get a nicer room. Let's, you know what I mean? Like, let's, let's, let's do it. So anyway, so I was like, fine. So I moved on from there.

[00:13:44] I went over to Bell services for our grocery order. Um, the lobby of the Polynesian is very busy, which we all know, right? It's, it's an attraction on top of the attractions. So it was very busy. Um, so I went to Bell services to get our grocery order. Um, they couldn't find it. Um, it took probably an hour for them to locate it. So we hadn't been to our room yet. We reserved a specific room.

[00:14:12] We already, so it was, it was, um, I don't know. It's not Bell, Bell services and the, the initial people that we talked to. So I was, I was like, okay, so moving on. So we went to our room, we changed, and then we were like, we need to eat something. So we went down to, is it Tamu, Tamu, Tamu, Tamu, Tamu lounge? I'm confusing a couple.

[00:14:39] Tamu lounge is the lounge that's outside of Ohana. Yes. So we, so we went down to Tamu lounge. Yes. Um, I don't know what Tamu Tamu is. Is that at animal kingdom? What am I mixing up? I think, yeah, I think there's something called Tamu Tamu. Okay. And then there's, there's Timu for your, for your cheap clothing needs. So anyway, so. Hold on. I'm going to look up Tamu Tamu just to. Okay.

[00:15:07] Tamu Tamu is the refreshment. It's a refreshment stand in the Harambee area of animal kingdom. All right. So we were not at the animal kingdom. We were inside the Polynesian at the Tamu lounge. So when we went two years ago, we, the reason we stayed at the Polynesian was we did, um, just like a, a monorail resort hop type of day. And we ended up going to the Tamu lounge.

[00:15:35] And that's when Tom fell in love with the Polynesian. He's like, I love it here. We walked around the grounds. He loved the beach. Like he just, he thought it was beautiful. So he really wanted to sit at that bar, that tiki bar and have a little drink and some snacks and whatever. So we did that the night we got there and it was great. Um, our drinks were good. We had some snacks. Um, our bartender recommended that we have the, um, the bread pudding and I love bread pudding.

[00:16:03] And he, he doesn't, but I think we had that bread pudding three or four times throughout the trip because he was like, you want to go get the bread pudding? So it's just, it was, it was really good. Um, so we ended up going there and then we went to the room, did showers, and then we went to bed. We were very, very tired. Um, travel days are exhausting anyway. So the next day was magic kingdom. It was Wednesday, the eighth.

[00:16:31] We had a nine o'clock reservation at the grand Floridian cafe. We walked there from the tower, which was a great, I mean, a great walk. It's beautiful. It's, you know, five or 10 minutes. Um, Tom had pancakes. I had steak and eggs. I gave him my eggs. I ate my steak. Um, and they gave us some champagne because we had our little buttons on, um, which was nice. So we had that and then we were there maybe an hour. And then from there we went to magic kingdom via the monorail.

[00:17:00] I purchased photo pass. Oh, we did some photos. We did some photos of the grand Floridian also. Um, I would also like to add that my house now smells like the grand Floridian because, um, we loved the smell. Did you get a candle? Um, no, Tom ordered, um, some of the oils and he put it in. Oh, okay. Yeah. So my house, it smells delicious, but I may need to buy a candle also. Um, we, we loved every time we walked in there, we were just like, oh, that smells so nice.

[00:17:29] And the grand Floridian is a little bougie. Right. And we're not bougie, but like we walked in there. We loved it. Every time we walked in there, we were like, it's so nice in here. So anyway, um, we did some pictures with photo pass inside of the grand Floridian upstairs on the second floor. They have that little backdrop. So we did some of those and then we took the monorail over to Magic Kingdom. Um, I did make him do photos on Main Street.

[00:17:58] He was very happy to do all of these pictures the whole week. He, since he loves when I make him take selfies. Yeah, that sounds like Charles and Alex. Yes. So I was like, fine, I'm just going to buy the photo package and we're going to take them every, every time we, we can, because we don't have any photos that are not our wedding pictures and not selfies. So anyway, so we did photos on Main Street. Um, and then we had a lightning lane for Peter Pan. So we walked over there.

[00:18:28] We waited about five minutes. I think that ride's really cute. Um, Tom liked it. He said it was short. It is, but it it's, it's cute. Um, so after we, um, scanned in for our lightning lane, I grabbed a lightning lane for Tiana's, um, for 8 PM. Um, so I knew that I was going to try to modify that to go on it earlier. Um, so anyway, so when we got off there, we went over to, um, the Ariel ride.

[00:18:57] I don't know what it's called. I love it. Um, I just call it little mermaid. Yeah. The little mermaid ride. That's probably what it's called. Um, I love that ride. I, I don't know what it is. I love the little mermaid. I love the nineties Disney movies. It's, I don't know. I just, I love that ride. So anyway, from there we went to haunted mansion. We did not have a lightning lane for that. So we went, we rode that and the little mermaid standby.

[00:19:28] Um, the little mermaid, there wasn't a wait, maybe just walking through. Right. So five minutes. Yeah. It's the queue is so long. Um, but it's cool. It's nice and cool when it's so hot out. It was very hot. As you know, you were there. Mm hmm. Yes. Um, from there we went to the haunted mansion and we, again, we rode that standby. That was about a 30 minute wait.

[00:19:52] So while we were waiting, I was able to modify our lightning lane for Tiana's from eight to 12, 10, which was great because it was close to that. Um, when we got off of haunted mansion, we went over to country bears. When Tom was a kid and he went to magic kingdom, he loved the country bears. That was his, that was his favorite part of the whole trip. So I said, we need to ride it since you're an adult now.

[00:20:21] Um, and he loved it just as much. I was watching him watch it. And he was just, he was so excited and he took videos and he sent it to his mom. Um, so my husband is not a Disney person. He coaches football. Like he's like the, so to see him in this excited country bears, you know what I mean? It was just, it was really cute to watch. Um, and I think it took him back to when he was a kid.

[00:20:49] Um, when I was going to say it, it sounds like he turned into a kid again. Yeah, he did. And then he snapped out of it. So, um, anyway, so from there, we, we took a walk over to, um, pineapple and I for dole whips in magic kingdom. Yeah. I don't think it's pineapple. No, I think that's what it is at the Polynesian. I think you're right.

[00:21:18] It is called Aloha Isle. All right. So from there, we took a dole whip break. I got the one with the, um, cake pop. Yes. Pineapple cake. It's so good. Oh my gosh. It is so good. It is my favorite. Although I really liked the, I love it. You float too, but no, I'm going to say I like, I like that one better. Cause it's got the coconut. Yeah, it's so good. So I did a solo trip last year.

[00:21:48] You've heard me say this many times. Um, and I got it last year. It was like, I think I had that in the gray stuff cupcake. That was all I ate at magic kingdom. And it was so good. That little cake pop. It's just, it's so flavor. It just adds so much to the dole whip anyway. Um, so from there, so we sat down for a little while just to decompress. There were a lot of people. I don't know if you noticed that, but, um, we just, we felt like it was a busy day.

[00:22:17] So, um, from there we went on Tiana's when we were in the lightning lane line, there was a sign about the big drop, like the 50 foot drop. Um, and, um, you'll notice a theme. Tom's not big on rides. He, he doesn't do drops. He doesn't do the roller coasters. So he is verbalizing his fear over that drop.

[00:22:43] Um, so, um, we get the back row of our little boat and the man in front of us is listening to him. And you can just see his shoulders going up and down. Cause he's laughing. Cause he can hear how scared Tom was. Anyway, it just, it made me laugh. Um, the picture is hilarious. I have my hands up. He's holding on for dear life with his eyes, like closed as much as possible. Oh my God.

[00:23:13] It, it, it is us to a T like it, it, it's just, it's so fun. And I, I need to print it out and frame it for him just because it, it's so funny. So when we, when we finished up the, um, the man in front of us turned around and he was like, I'm sorry, bro. I just, I was listening. I knew you could do it. I didn't want to chime in yet, but he, he chimed in. It was, it was really funny.

[00:23:39] So anyway, so I, I don't know. I just, I think it's funny. So, um, one thing I realized during this trip is that, um, Tom and I tour like our touring plans, the way we tour a park, the way we do things is very similar. Like we kind of reach our point at the same time where I need a break. I need a snack. I need to sit down. Why don't we do this? Why don't we do that?

[00:24:08] And I, you'll notice it when we get to Epcot also. But, um, I said, when I said, I need a break. And he said, I said, do you mind if I move our, um, lightning lanes to a little bit later? And he was like, Nope, that's fine with me. I said, okay. So, um, we ended up, I, we ended up taking a break. Um, I don't know if it was two o'clock, three o'clock.

[00:24:38] Um, but I moved our poo and buzz lightning lanes to later. So one was at 821 was at 920. And then I had a Tron lightning lane at eight. So, and we had dinner plans at Wailulu. So it was a, it was a good time to kind of reassess where we were. Um, we also are not, we don't need to be in the park from open to close.

[00:25:05] Um, the last trip we took, I felt like we had to go, go, go, go, go, go, go. Cause I thought it was our one and done trip. Um, I didn't think he was going to want to go back. So what I learned through that was he does like to take it a little bit slower. He doesn't want to rope drop. He doesn't want to, he doesn't want to do the whole day. And I don't need to do that either. And I know some people are trying to maximize their dollar, right?

[00:25:35] It's a lot of money for families to go on vacation. It's a lot of money for families to buy multiple park tickets to go into the park. I totally get that. And I totally respect that. That is how they, those people view, view it. But at, at what cost, right? Do we both want to be miserable? Do we know we don't. And how do you be miserable? How can you be miserable at Disney? You can't.

[00:26:04] Um, but, but it was, I don't know. I see people finding a way somehow. Well, yes. And same. And usually wearing a shirt that says most expensive day ever or something along those lines. Yes. I, I feel like I don't need to rope drop to close. I can and have, but one thing I don't like to do is I don't like to take too many so-called really truly sleep in days. Yes.

[00:26:33] Even if I'm not going to rope drop, I want to be up and doing things. I want to be up and enjoying my vacation. So even if it's, I'm up and I'm going and hanging out at the food court and getting some breakfast or I'm going to the pool or I'm just up and reading my book and whatever. I just want to be living my vacation and not sleeping the day away. That's my thing. And, and I totally agree with you.

[00:26:58] Um, we get up early anyway, we're up three, three 30 most days. Um, and I think we slept till seven 30 at the latest one day. And it was like seven, seven 30 most days, which felt amazing because we didn't have to rush to get up to take the dogs out and do all the things that it, it was nice to be able to, but, but yes, we, the proximity to the park was amazing.

[00:27:28] Amazing because we were able to go to the grand Floridian for breakfast, then hop on the monorail and then hop on the monorail back and then do our thing and, and this and that. So I, I definitely think we maximized our days, but we didn't need to maximize park hours. Does that make sense? That makes sense, right? Totally makes sense.

[00:27:54] And I think that this is exactly the argument for staying on property. And even if you're not staying at one of the monorail resorts or even one of the Skyliner resorts, there is a time that you get back by being on property and using the Disney transportation. Yes. So if you're staying at an off property resort and you are forced to always be dropped off at the ticket and transportation center, that's fine.

[00:28:23] Maybe, maybe you did save enough money that it made it worth it for you, but you're also tacking on that time every time you go to and from the park and you can't as easily go take a break in the middle of the day at your resort. So for me, that is why I will 99% of the time always be on property. Yes. And I, and I agree with that. Um, when I took my solo trip last year, um, I stayed at Saratoga.

[00:28:53] I rented DVC points and I was meeting my, one of my girlfriends later in the day, she lives down there. Um, and I was like, Oh, I'm going to take the bus to Epcot and I'm going to get a coffee and then I'm going to just come back and then go later. And it was perfect. Um, and why not? Why couldn't I? Right. If that's where you want to get coffee from, I mean, you can get coffee a lot of places,

[00:29:18] but if you have specifically in mind that you want one of those Viking coffees or whatever you want from Epcot, then you gotta do it. Yeah. Yep. So, uh, yes, I, I am glad that we just talked that through because I do feel like if I had this conversation with my, my Disney people, they'd be like, Oh my God, open a close. That's the only way to do it.

[00:29:47] And I, I truly don't think that it is not for me. No, anyway, I, you know, it's, it's whatever, whatever you value in your trip. Yes. I also think it's, where are you within your Disney journey? How frequently are you getting to go? Or do you really feel like you were talking about before that need to really maximize your ticket?

[00:30:11] And then honestly, it kind of depends on, on to some degree age, because I feel like even if you're an annual pass holder, but you're on the younger side, you may still have that. Like I can go open to close and why would I do anything else? You, you old folks are crazy, but that's just not, that's not going to make for a, an enjoyable trip for me if I have to go, go, go the entire time.

[00:30:40] And that's part of the beauty of getting to go as, as often as I do is that I can say, no, I'm just going to sit here and people watch. And like, that is just as enjoyable to me as going on a ride. Yes. And that is something we talked about prior to going, um, our Epcot day, we switched rooms. So I didn't know when our room was going to be ready.

[00:31:07] And I was like, I know that I don't want to be at Epcot all day. However, I am going to sit on a bench in France and drink some champagne and watch all the people. Okay. Mm hmm. Why can't I? So anyway, so getting back on track, um, after our conversation about a break. Mm hmm. I moved the lightning lanes.

[00:31:36] Um, we stopped at Starbucks for a coffee and then we took the monorail back to the resort. Um, at this point I modified our dinner reservation. Um, we had an early dinner reservation at 10 past four. I moved it to 530 and we went to the pool. Oh, okay. Yes. So. Which, which pool did you go to? Did you go to the tower pool or to the main pool? Tower pool. We loved it.

[00:32:06] How did you like it? I loved it. We went to three pools while we were there. Um, this was probably our favorite. We really, we really liked it. Okay, good. You could see the Magic Kingdom from the pool. Um, the people were really nice. Uh, we, we liked it. Yeah. Cause I don't think by the time we spoke the first time I had not booked my February trip, but for my February trip, I'm staying in the tower.

[00:32:36] So very interested in talking to people who stay in the tower at this point. So Tom, if I asked Tom, if he wanted to hop on at all and he said, Nope. And I said, Okay, he, his preference was the tower compared to the other building. Uh, okay. He, he said, I would not stay at the Polynesian again, but he goes, I would stay at the tower again. I said, well, the tower is part of the Polynesian.

[00:33:02] And he goes, I would not stay at there again, but he preferred the tower over the main building. So, um, so after we went to the pool, we went to our room and this is really our first full day, right? So the advantage of staying at a deluxe is you have a balcony. Well, our balcony, the slider door was broken. So we could not. Oh gosh. Yes. So, so did you call maintenance?

[00:33:31] I went downstairs. I got nowhere. I got nowhere. So they didn't even send anybody up to take a look. Nope. Nope. They were so bizarre. Anyway. So from there we got ready in the room and then we went down to dinner. Um, we had dinner at Wai Lulu. Were you seated inside or outside? Outside. I, I love Wai Lulu. I think it's got such a nice vibe to it. Yes.

[00:34:01] Um, and I enjoyed the food I had. That being said, I've, I've been there once. So I've tried an appetizer, an entree and a dessert. Okay. What did you eat while you were there? I had something poke related and I can't remember if it was the appetizer or whether it was my entree. Okay. I think it was probably the appetizer, like the poke nachos or something. Anyway, I remember liking it. Um, we loved it.

[00:34:26] Um, we had cousin Kevin who, um, was, he was great. We actually went to Wai Lulu several times while we were there and we had him most of the times we went. Um, we learned that he was in the video for Kokomo. Uh, that was really. Yeah. He, um. Oh my God. That's so funny. Yeah. He was, he was great. Um, he was very knowledgeable. He was very down to earth.

[00:34:53] He knew he just, he was, he was really good at his job. He was just, we loved him. Um, he, he was, he was fun. Um, anyway, so Tom got a burger. He liked it. Um, I got the octopus, which is an appetizer. It was probably my favorite meal of the week. It was so good. It was really, really good. Um, and then we had sticky ribs for an appetizer. Um, I know I just went out of order. Sorry. Sorry.

[00:35:22] But, um, yeah, that was probably my favorite meal. Yeah. I'm looking at the menu and I cannot recall which of these entrees I had, but I know that for the appetizers, we got the ahi tuna crisps. And then we also got the misubi because you gotta chat spam. Everyone's talking about it. Yeah. Um, we really liked it there. Um, it was really good.

[00:35:50] Um, anyway, so from there we went back to Magic Kingdom. Um, and this was extended evening hours as well. Yes. Did you go with the intention to stay for that? Um, we went, leading up to the trip, yes. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. We went with the intention of, I wanted to see the fireworks when we were on the people mover. Magic Kingdom was people soup.

[00:36:20] It was wall to wall people. Um, I don't know what time you got there that night. I'm looking because I don't think we ended up going over there. The 8th we're talking about? Uh, for some reason I remember watching your stories on Facebook. Um, cause I was like, oh, people are running to her. You went to the, what's the, um, the pirate bar? We went to Beacon Barrel. Yeah. I remember seeing that. We went to Beacon Barrel.

[00:36:47] We didn't end up staying too late. We left before the fireworks started. Okay. So we did as well. It was very, very busy, uh, like overwhelming, like to the point where we were a bit overwhelmed. Um, everybody tours differently. Some people can handle that. I would rather go do something else and, and enjoy my space, you know? So anyway. And it was going to rain really hard.

[00:37:16] Like you could tell the clouds were looming. Yes. So that's part of why we ended up leaving too. I'll get, I, I actually want to talk about that in a second. So when we got to Magic Kingdom, uh, so I had a lightning lane for Tron. So I went over there and did that. I love Tron. Tron's so fun. What did, what did Tom do while you were doing that? Because I know that with his motion sickness, he was a no go for that sort of thing. He held all of my stuff.

[00:37:45] Like my fanny pack and stuff. Um, he sat on a bench and he watched it. That's cool. Did he see you go past? Yeah. I have no idea. Probably not. Um, when I got off of it, he goes, yeah, I could never do that. And I said, I know that's why I didn't buy you a lightning lane. But the lady that I sat next to, she had never been on it. So I, I, it was fun to talk to her while we were waiting.

[00:38:10] And the first time I wrote it, I wrote next to a guy who knew it was my first time. And he was like, you know, hyping me up and all of that. So it was just, it was fun to, you know, do that with her. So it was fun. I, that rides a lot. It's not my favorite ride because there's a ride called the guardians of the galaxy. But, um, I, I do a little ride you might've heard of. Yeah. You may have heard of it anyway.

[00:38:34] So, um, from there we had a lightning lane for poo and then we had a lightning lane for buzz. So we went over to poo, um, before we got on, which was fun. Tom liked it. He was like, that's really cute. Um, I love the tigger part when you bounce. I don't know. It's fun. Um, so from there we went on the people mover, um, pre fireworks. And Tom said, what is the point of this? And I was like, you're just done.

[00:39:03] He goes, I'm just done. So it was funny. Um, and then we are lightning lane for buzz. And I will tell you that the lovely cast member who worked at buzz, the lightning lane, I went up there and I scanned it and she looked at me and she said, you are very early. And I said, I know. She goes, is this your last ride of the night? I go, it is. She goes, go ahead. And I was like, yes. She was so nice.

[00:39:31] And I, cause I truly, I don't know that we would have waited another hour or so. Um, what time was this around that you were sort of tapping out? Um, 930 maybe. Yeah. It's so funny. You know, you probably walked right past us. Probably. Because we got, um, sunshine tree terrace.

[00:39:57] We got I lava you floats and we ended up because we had a buzz lightning lane that I wanted to do and so we ended up walking over and kind of sitting under the awning at monsters, Inc. Monsters Laugh Floor. Um, just kind of like against the wall. So in case it started raining, cause it looked like it was about to at any second. And we were just like sitting there. I bet you wandered past. Probably. So when we were on the people mover, we were watching the lightning in the distance. And I was like, I don't have ponchos.

[00:40:26] I don't have anything. And I was like, all right, like, so I, and like I said, I was watching your in your Facebook stories. Cause I know we talked like, Oh, maybe if we're in the same place, blah, blah, blah. It just never happened. Um, yeah, we tapped out early. Like, like I said, we don't, we don't need to be open to close. We, we tapped out pretty early. No, so no, you gave it the old college try and that's good enough. Yeah.

[00:40:55] We maximized our days in other ways and that's okay. So as we got to the monorail, the skies opened, we left at the perfect time. So anyway, so we had almost 20,000 steps that day. So it was a busy day. Um, so the next, yep. Got your steps in. Yes. Yes. So the next day, um, was the ninth. Thursday, July 9th.

[00:41:24] And for my own reference, I'm looking at my, my thing. We were doing animal kingdom in the morning and Hollywood studios in the afternoon. Okay. Flash evening. Um, we did not have a park day. Um, we got up, uh, we went for a walk. We got, um, coffee at the Polynesian and then we walked over to Grand Floridian for Gasparilla.

[00:41:53] So we got breakfast over there. So we ended up eating that. And then from there we had a DVC presentation. Um, wait a second, Kim, did you, did you have this DVC presentation planned when we spoke before or was this a, you signed up for it when you got there? No. So I, I listened to a lot of podcasts and I, I heard someone, I don't, I truly don't know

[00:42:23] which podcast it was, but they said that they contacted Disney to do a DVC tour, DVC presentation. Um, so I didn't know how it was going to go. Right. Um, prior to going, I thought if we were going to consider it, it would have been at the Polynesian. Mm hmm. But your mind has been changed. Yes. So we had the presentation at the tower.

[00:42:53] Um, lovely cast member named Doug. He was great. Um, it was probably close to two hours. Uh, wow. Yeah. He, he was very informative. We walked everywhere. He showed us several rooms though. I don't know if it was a one, I think it was a one bedroom. He showed us that thing is humongous and it is beautiful. It's a beautiful, beautiful room.

[00:43:20] And like Tom and I kept looking at each other, like maybe like, what do you think? And he's 56. I am 45. And I think if we had this conversation 10 years ago, we may have done something, but we don't have kids. You know what I mean? It's, it's one of those things. Like, so we, we decided against it.

[00:43:44] Um, but if we were to initially the Polynesian was what we would probably consider, but I, I haven't toured or stayed at the Riviera, but I love the Riviera too. So I was like, Oh, like that's, that's, you know, a possibility also. It's not in the cards now. So it sounds to me like if you were really going to consider it at some point in the future, you

[00:44:10] are prime candidates for a resale contract because it can be a shorter contract that you can save money on and you can just buy at the resort that you wanted to stay at the most. Um, you can save a lot of money doing it that way and you don't have to worry about locking in for quite so long cause you have whatever time is left on that contract that you're purchasing. But I, I've said it before, I'll say it again.

[00:44:37] DVC is not for everybody and you really have to analyze what your travel preferences are. Um, in addition to feeling ready to make that kind of purchase, um, is it going to work for the way that you like to travel? Because not everybody likes to plan quite so far ahead as you kind of have to do for DVC. Yes. So, um, did you get anything for doing the tour though? Like, um, did they give you a card or anything like that?

[00:45:07] They did. I got back to my room and I had, um, a $200 gift card in my email. So we both got a hundred dollars. Yeah. Um, and we used it that night on our, um, monorail crawl. So that was perfect. Um, so we did that. Um, and this is where Tom said, I really want to go get a cigar. And I said, well, I don't know where you can get a cigar. Interesting. And I don't know where you're going to smoke it because you can't smoke at Disney. And he was like, I still want to go. And I said, all right.

[00:45:36] So I thought of what you said. You said, leave some, and I'm paraphrasing. You said, leave some room in your schedule for some flexibility, basically like leave to be spontaneous. So we left some time to spontaneous. So we took a bus to Hollywood studios. Um, we walked over to the Swan, um, because they have some cigar lounge or whatever, um, or a restaurant that has, whatever their steakhouse is.

[00:46:06] It was not open. Um, so we did not secure a cigar and that's okay. So from there, we walked around the boardwalk to Epcot. Uh, and then we took the Skyliner to the Riviera and we had lunch at, um, Primo Piatto. Nope. Uh, Topolinos Terrace. Nope. Pool bar. Oh, Bar Riva. Bar Riva.

[00:46:33] Like we're going to go through every destination at Riviera. No, I love it. So we had lunch at, um, Bar Riva, which was fun. And I, we talked about the main street dish on our last part on our intro and, um, they always talk about it. And I was like, all right, I'm going to go there. So we went there and, um, we didn't have any cocktails. We were both so dehydrated at this point.

[00:46:58] Um, so he got a Greek salad and I got some veggie pita thing. It was delicious. It was, it was really, really good. Um, from there, we took a lift back to the Polynesian and we went to the pool. Um, I have no idea what time it was, but we spent a few hours at the pool. Um, I, it, I've never really been on a vacation where I spent, I, I never made time for pool time or beach time or really anything like that.

[00:47:28] So it was nice to be able to just chill out. Um, we loved being at the pool. Um, so anyway, from there, we ended up getting ready and we went on our monorail crawl. Uh, we started at Citricos. Uh, we got a drink there. I got the citrus blossom martini. He got a passion margarita. It was really good. Um, we got pixie dusted some champagne, which was very nice. Oh, for your anniversary. Yes.

[00:47:57] So we had that also. Um, we then went up to the California grill. Uh, we got pixie dusted some more champagne, uh, which was nice. Um, Tom had a beer. I had a dirty martini. Okay. How was the dirty martini? It was good. Um, I, I probably should have started with a dirty martini just because I had something, you know, citrusy and fruity and then I went to that, but it was good. You can't go wrong with a dirty martini.

[00:48:27] Um, it was really good. And our bartender was great. We ended up getting a, just like a little flatbread to snack on. Um, which was good. And then from there we tried to go to steakhouse 71. Cause I know we talked about their crab cake. Mm. And the lounge is, is good. If you don't have a reservation, don't hesitate to just walk in and try. So we tried, it was full. Okay. And I was like, do we want to wait?

[00:48:55] Um, so we didn't wait, but we ended up going back to the Polynesian and we ended up at Wailulu. Um, so Tom had a pina colada there. I had a virgin pina colada. Um, and we got, I think some hummus with some sweet potato, something or other. Um, it was good. We like Wailulu. Um, and then from there, I think we watched the fireworks.

[00:49:26] Did we watch it from Wailulu or did we go up to the terrace? We watched the fireworks that night from somewhere. Um, which was fun. So, um, so that was our Thursday. All right. So Friday, July the 10th, this is actually your 10 year anniversary day. It is. Yep. So, um, how did you spend this day recognizing your love for each other?

[00:49:52] Um, we got up early, um, and I went and got us coffee and breakfast. So I ended up ordering from captain cooks. Um, and you, you had a steakhouse 71 breakfast reservation this day. We canceled it. Okay. Did you cancel it before you even went on the trip or. Yes. Okay. We did. Um, I think we were trying to decide cause we had had three breakfast. Reservations.

[00:50:20] We had the one at grand Floridian cafe. We had this one and then we had wine bar George. And I said, do we need. Oh yeah. And he was like, if I had to cancel one, I would do steakhouse 71. I said it. Perfect. So we canceled it. Um, okay. So I got us breakfast at captain cooks and coffee upstairs. Um, and then we ate that in our room. He was still sleeping when I went and got it. And then we went to the gym.

[00:50:49] Um, and then we spent the day at the pool, which was great. Um, what did we eat lunch? Um, what did we eat lunch? I don't know if we ate lunch. I don't know. I mean, you don't really have to eat lunch every day. Um, and then. No, especially with as much as you eat at Disney, you know, I always eat more than I normally would there. So. Yes. And it's funny because he's said to me a bunch, he's like, I don't really feel like we ate that much. And I was like, you may not feel that way. I feel like I ate a lot.

[00:51:19] So, um, but that happens. So we spent the day at the pool. Um, and then I think we just took an hour before dinner just to like rest our eyes in the room. And I mean, being in the sun at the pool all day. Yeah. It takes it out of you. It does. It does. So, um, we got ready for dinner. We went to Tobolino's, which is my favorite.

[00:51:46] Um, we took the bus to Hollywood studios and then we took the Skyliner to Tobolino's at the Riviera. Um, which I realize isn't everybody's jam, but it worked for us. Um, we had a lot of. That's the way I get there going resort to resort. You just go to Hollywood studios and hop on the Skyliner. It's the easiest way to do it. Yeah. And I, I feel like the last time I did this. Um, so again, I keep referencing it. I'm sorry.

[00:52:14] But when I went on my solo trip, I remember doing that. Um, so I stayed at Taratoga. I took the bus. I took the Skyliner and I feel like it took forever. I don't, I don't know why, because when maybe it's cause I was with him and time goes by fast when we're together, but I, I sounded so corny. So I, I, but I do feel like it, it just like, it went by fast.

[00:52:43] It was just a quick, a quick trip. So anyway, so we went to Topolino's. Um, we were a little early. So we, which we planned, we got a drink at the bar. Um, I think he probably had a beer. I had a lime drop martini, which was excellent. I was going to get a dirty martini, but I decided against it and I don't remember why. Um, and then. What did you order for dinner? I'm curious about your entrees of choice.

[00:53:12] Well, do you want to hear about our appetizer or no? Um, yes, please. Okay. So we got the gnocchi braised short ribs. Okay. The gnocchi with braised short ribs. I'm sorry. Yeah. Okay. I think I've had that before. Cause usually if it's something that's short rib, I'm into it. Me too. Um, so when I went there before I got this and I got, do they have homemade burrata? I think they do. Or another, another trigger word for me.

[00:53:42] If I see burrata, I'm like, yes, yes, I want that. So the last time I went, I ordered the gnocchi and that. Mm hmm. And I ate the gnocchi and took the rest with me because I, I couldn't, I was so full from that. Um, the gnocchi it's so good. It's heavy. It's a heavy dish. It's a small portion because it's so heavy, but I could have had that for my meal and been fine.

[00:54:10] But, um, it was so good. So pro tip, order the gnocchi. Um, I had the filet because I had you in my head and you said you always order the filet. It was very good. Um, he had the striped bass, which he loved. So we shared a bite and he said, I'm glad I got what I got. And I said, I am so glad I got what I got. Um, it was excellent.

[00:54:35] Um, and then what did you get dessert? We did not. Okay. Um, I know. For next time. I know. Uh, we were just really, really full. Yeah. We actually took a, a, a lift back. I was like, I am so full. I was like, I cannot, I cannot get on the Skyliner. And like, I just, I was very, very full.

[00:55:05] I, I, sometimes you just, you need to get back to your room and you're just like, I don't care how much it costs. I just want to get there quickly. And it was like $7. Yeah. Which is, I'll, I'll pay the $7 for convenience. Um, so I don't know if we went back to our room first, but we ended up at Y Lulu for drinks. And I think I, I think I, I don't know what I got. I was so full, so I can't imagine that I got something heavy. Mm hmm. He probably got a beer. I don't, I don't remember.

[00:55:35] Um, so that was that day. So almost 15,000 steps for a rest day. That's not so bad. That's really good amount of steps for a rest day. Yeah. But that's like a Tuesday in at home. Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, I know that sounds stupid, but it's like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like a Tuesday at home. So it was good. Um, and that, although you live in New York city, so that's probably like half of a Tuesday for you.

[00:56:02] I mean, it's Tuesdays I work from home. So my step count, it's like 300. No, I'm kidding. I took the dog out. I took the dog down the stairs. Exactly. It's like, take the dog out, go back and forth between the kitchen and my desk. So it's really low on my stay at home days. All right. All right. But you know what I mean. I do.

[00:56:27] So the next day was your, the next day was our Epcot day and we were also switching rooms. So we packed up all our stuff. We went and got breakfast at somewhere. I don't know if it was captain cooks. Maybe we got a muffin upstairs. He wanted, we had a, the Kona Island or whatever it's called. Yes. Yep. Where we were getting our coffee.

[00:56:52] Um, so we, we grabbed a cart, um, on our way back from there and we loaded up our stuff because we did a grocery order. Also I ordered, um, like five gallons of water, some Gatorade, a case of water, all the hydration. Um, and then we hopped on the monorail around nine 30 to go to Epcot. Um, so we got there around 10 15.

[00:57:22] Um, I had a lightning lane for guardians. Uh, so we, we did, um, some pictures at the front of the, at the front of the park and then we walked over to guardians and guess what song I got. Everybody wants to rule the world. Yes. I was like, if you're asking me, it's gotta be my song. Yes. Um, so when I was in line, um, what are the upbeat songs?

[00:57:50] Conga and disco inferno, um, one way or another. Yes. I was hoping for, I was hoping for one way or another or conga. Um, I've gotten, I ran and I've gotten disco inferno and now I've gotten, everyone wants to rule the world. So, um, each time I've written it, I've gotten a different song, which was fun. That's very lucky. Yeah.

[00:58:13] Um, anyway, so from there, I wanted to show him club cool because the last time we went, we didn't really do much at the front of the park. Uh, because we went in through international gateway cause we were staying at the boardwalk. Um, and I just thought it would be fun. So he liked it. So we just tried some sodas and then we moved on. Um, I got a text around 11 saying our room was ready. Okay. Um, which was nice.

[00:58:41] Um, so from club cool, um, we started in Canada. Tom loves Canadian beer. Um, and he wanted to get a beer. So we went there, grabbed him a beer and we just walked, we walked through Canada. We walked through the UK shops. Mm hmm. I wanted some champagne in France. Um, I don't know why I just felt like it would be fun. So I got some.

[00:59:10] No, it is fun. And I, that was a goal of yours. In fact, I wrote it down champagne in France. Like that's such a silly goal. Um, but it was on my list of things I wanted to do the last time I went that I didn't end up doing. So here we are. Um, so once I secured the champagne, um, we sat on a bench and we literally people watched and just chilled out. Right.

[00:59:37] I mean, it was still early, but again, if you're go, go, go, you're not taking in the moment. Right. Um, and I, every time I leave, I'm like, Oh, you know what I didn't do? And I, I think because we're so focused on the next thing, the next thing, the next thing. Um, and I didn't want to do that. Right. I wanted to slow down.

[01:00:03] I wanted to enjoy myself and I wanted to drink my champagne and sit on a bench. And, and, and I just want to know it for listeners. There was some head shaking going on when she said, drink my champagne. She had, she had a little bit sass there. And I will say it was hot the entire time both of us were here, but I remember that this day in particular felt really hot. Yes. It was very, very hot. Um, so we did that.

[01:00:33] And then, uh, again, I think we shared a muffin for breakfast. So we ended up going into the patisserie and we just shared some snacks. We got a ham and cheese croissant. He wanted creme brulee. I wanted that raspberry lime macaron. Yes. It was really good. So good.

[01:00:59] And then I, so I don't know if I shared this. You do not have to share this at all, but I'm just going to tell you, I don't think I had a croissant until like two months ago. Ever? Ever. Ever. Um, I was, I was at a conference and there were just, you know, how there's always like snacks and whatever. And there were croissants and I grabbed one and I go, Oh my God, this is so good.

[01:01:27] And I, I think I had a couple of them at the conference and I texted Tom and I was like, I don't think I've ever had, I don't think I've ever had a croissant before. And I've just been on a croissant kick. So I was like, what's the over under? And he's like four. And I think I had two the whole time I was there. But, um, I looked at, yeah, I know crazy. I looked at the huge croissant and the dipped one and the one next to it. And I was like, should we get that?

[01:01:55] And he was like, I don't think it's a good idea. I was like, okay. So we got the big baguette instead. Um, and what's the difference, right? Um, well, there is a difference because I don't know if you've since you've been on this croissant journey and I'm going to pause here to say, do you mind if I leave this in? Cause I think it's funny. Yeah. Okay. Um, I don't know if you've investigated like what it takes to make a croissant, but there

[01:02:24] is a lot of butter involved and that is why it tastes so good. And if you love a croissant, might I invite you to the next time you try one to toast it a little bit. Okay. And the crunch on the outside just takes it to the next level. So from the patisserie. Uh huh. After you had your baguette in hand. Yes. Where'd you go next?

[01:02:49] We ended up sitting back on a bench, eating it and just people watching a little more. So anyway, do you have a favorite bench now? I liked that one in France. Like when you, so when you walk over the bridge and down the hill a little bit, there's like a little tree like against the railing and there's a bench right there. And then if you walk up the hill, not the hill, but if you walk up a little bit toward the patisserie, like you can see the patisserie, you can see Remy's a little bit and then

[01:03:18] you can like see off in the distance to the left. It's, it's pretty. Okay. Yeah. Um, so from there we walked through just, we made our way along the pavilions. Um, we did some photo pass photos, which was fun. Um, we did some magic shots, which were also fun. Especially when we had to, um, blow the confetti. That was fun.

[01:03:42] Um, so we ended up, um, stopping in Italy. Um, and I got some more champagne. Um, oh wow. Bougie. And then, uh, and Tom, Tom likes limoncello a lot. Um, so we go, I'm in cello. Um, and we just, you know, hung out there for a little bit. We found a little table and we did some people watching.

[01:04:08] Um, and then we walked through the rest of the pavilions. Um, and our plan this day was, we knew we were going to do a single lap just to, you know, whatever. And then we were going to do a second lap of the pavilions. We just, because again, it comes back to if we're rushing, what are we going to miss? Um, so we, we did a second lap and it was nice because we didn't stop at the bench. Right.

[01:04:38] We just like kept going. We were like, Oh, that's what we had. Blah, blah. Anyway. So, um, through on the second lap, I knew that we were going to end in Mexico because we had a dinner reservation. Mm hmm. So we did another lap through the pavilions and we stopped at Caramel Cooch. Mm hmm. For popcorn and a butter bar. I can't, I can't pass that butter bar. I just, I can't. And that popcorn, I think, I think I ended up bringing it home with me.

[01:05:08] I think I had it. Yeah. At home, which, okay, cool. Anyway. Um, it's so good. So from there, we ended up getting a crispy Coke at the African outpost. Is that what it's called? Mm hmm. Okay. I think so. Yeah. So, um, on that bridge. Yes. So we sat at a table, we did some more people watching.

[01:05:30] Um, and again, similar to our magic kingdom day, we both had reached our max and I knew he was feeling it. I knew I was feeling it. We kind of just like gave each other a look and we're like, yep. Okay. So for us to stop and get a Coke, it's not like what we would normally order, but we needed the bubbles. We were both super dehydrated. It was very, very hot this day. Mm hmm. We also drank. So that added to the dehydration.

[01:06:00] Um, so we were like, okay, so, oh, can I take a step back? Sure. So before we did our second lap through the pavilions, we went and met Daisy at the front of the park. Oh, fun. Yep. So she talk about sass. Yes. Um, girls got it. I, I don't, I don't do the Disney bounding. Like I don't do that.

[01:06:28] However, I happen to wear a purple tank top and a pair of white shorts and a pink pair of sneakers and a little purple Daisy headband. Um, and she assumed you were paying tribute to her. Correct. And Tom may have had his blue Donald Duck shirt on. Um, that's all just okay. I mean, it sounds a little bit planned. It may have been.

[01:06:57] At least on your part. Maybe Tom didn't know. My, my magic kingdom day might have been planned also, but anyway. Um, so it was, it was a very light bound, right? Like it was very light. So anyway, so, um, I'm going to just, I'm going to hop back. So after our Coke in the African outpost, we walked over to Mexico, um, where we met Donald.

[01:07:26] I love meeting Donald in Mexico. Um, Donald is Tom's favorite. He's so much fun. Oh, he is so much fun. Um, Donald is Tom's favorite. So that's part of why I planned loosely planned some outfits. Um, anyway, so we rode the three caballeros, which is one of his favorite, which is his favorite ride. He loves that ride. Cause he loves Donald. Um, and it's a boat ride and it's a little slow and it's no drops and all of that.

[01:07:55] So, I mean, it was the only ride we rode other than me riding guardians that day. Mm hmm. Um, it sounds like a great day to me. It was, it was a really good day. Um, so we walked, so sorry, we were already in Mexico. So, so we rode three caballeros and then we had dinner around six, um, at the Mexican restaurant inside the building. San Angel Inn. San Angel. San Angel Inn.

[01:08:25] Yeah. So, um, we had dinner there. We both had the fish tacos and a margarita. And, um, then we said, all right, we're good. And we left the park. Perfect. Perfect. So, um, we took the monorail to the TTC and I did not know about the express monorail. So I took the monorail to magic kingdom. Oh no.

[01:08:50] And then I had to go back to the TTC and with all the research and all the planning and all the Disney stuff I've done, you would think that I would know this. Um, meanwhile, I met a woman who she was very, very nice, um, on the monorail before we switched who English was not her first language. Um, and she was trying to ask where to go. And I was like, Oh, I'll show you. I could show her where to go.

[01:09:21] I could not figure out where I was going. So, um, I would just like to add that I am a good navigator. I just, I was done at this point. Um, so it took us about 20 extra minutes. That's okay. Yeah. Um, I did learn that, um, on one of our walks that you could get to the TTC just through a walking path. Had I known this at the time, I would have walked, but anyway, it is what it is. Whatever.

[01:09:51] Like we weren't in a rush. We were just ready to take a nap. Right. Well, not an app. It was depending on where your room is. You have to decide whether when you're on the monorail like that, like, is it worth it just to start walking from here? Because if you have one of those rooms that's closer to the parking lot anyway, then it's pretty easy to just hop over there. Yes. Yes. So anyway, so that day, so our room was ready around noon, like I had said. Um, so we got back to our room.

[01:10:21] We arranged for bell services to bring our bags. Um, it took probably about an hour. Um, did we go to the pool? Apparently we went to the pool this night. I don't remember that. Um, and then we showered and went to bed. So, so our room was on the first floor. Mm-hmm. And it was an accessible room. Okay. Um, which we didn't ask for, obviously.

[01:10:49] Um, I don't love getting an accessible room. I'll be honest. If I show up and it's an accessible room, I'm probably going to go and kindly ask if I can switch to a non-accessible room just because I like everything's like a little bit lower in those rooms. Um, so we did not request a room change.

[01:11:19] Mm-hmm. Mostly based on what we had experienced prior. Um, and I was like, I'm not going to let this, not ruin, but impact the rest of this. Right. Um, so it wasn't my favorite room.

[01:11:44] Um, the room felt very big, but I don't know if that's because the tower room felt so small. Mm-hmm. Um, was this a, a DVC room or was it in the portion of the Polynesian that was like a regular cash room? It was a regular cash room. Okay. The tower was a regular cash room also. Okay.

[01:12:10] Um, the room felt much bigger. Um, we had a bathtub, but I don't know if that's normal. I feel like it's not, um, not that I'm going to take a bath, but I, it just something I noticed. Um, another thing, two more things I noticed about the room is when you're in an accessible

[01:12:32] room, it's designed for, well, many things, but people with mobility issues need a little bit of extra time with the door. Mm-hmm. And we found that the door just stayed open forever. Mm-hmm. Um, which was tough because it's like, all right, shut, you know? So, which again, I'm being nitpicky with that.

[01:12:55] Um, and then, uh, one thing that wasn't amazing, but we could use it was, um, we had that little porch. So it was like ground level. We faced the pool. Mm-hmm. So it, it was usable on like the tower. Um, so that, uh, that was nice, but it, I prefer a room that's higher up, but you can't

[01:13:22] always get what you want and you get what you get. You don't get upset. Um, it was out, that was out of my control. So, okay. Mm-hmm. I made a request for a higher floor. I didn't care where, I just wanted a higher floor. With it being a lower floor, you hear everything. Um, so this was, this was very, very tough.

[01:13:46] The family above us, I swear they, they must've been jumping on their bed the entire night. Um, it was very, very loud. Um, and like throughout the night, people would just scream outside of our room. Um, which we're light sleepers anyway. So it's just, I don't know if it's us being light sleepers or just bad behaved, badly behaved adults. Do you know what I mean?

[01:14:13] So I just, I don't know. And people are on vacation. They should be able to do what they want, but they also should be respectful. And mindful that they're not the only people. Right. Especially at certain hours of the night, because you know, there's a time when a majority of people have gone to bed, but there's also, you know, times where it might be evening. And at the very least, the kiddos are trying to be asleep. Yes. Yeah.

[01:14:43] So that was, that was a challenge. Um, but it is what it is. Um, so that was Saturday. Um, Sunday we had plans for Disney Springs. So we got up and we went to the gym. Um, we took hours and then we started at Everglazed for coffee.

[01:15:09] Um, and we got a donut, which we saved for later. And I did not eat. Um, and then we went to brunch at Wine Bar George. Um, I had their breakfast sandwich. How, how was it? How was it? Because I have not had brunch there before. Uh, so this was the one place that Tom requested we go to again, that we went to on our last trip. Um, he loves, he loves breakfast.

[01:15:38] Um, and he, he, he loves pancakes. Like that's his thing. He just, he gobbles them up. He loves pancakes. So if you could give him pancakes for all meals, he would eat them. So it's good. I recommend you should go. And it's easy to get a reservation. We were seated upstairs both times that we went last time. And this time, um, I think we were seated in the same at the same table.

[01:16:03] And I think there were probably five, five tables total that we saw people at. Mm-hmm. Um, I'm assuming they're busier for later on the day. I'm, I'm assuming they're busier. The menu looks amazing. I'm looking at it. What? And the menu looks amazing. I'm looking at it right now. Um, I think it's just, it's not one of those places that I would think of. Like I, I can't even say I was aware that they had, um, brunch as an option until you and I spoke last time. It's, I believe it's only Saturday and Sunday.

[01:16:33] Oh, okay. That makes sense. So be mindful of that. Yeah. But it's, it's really good. And I, I think it would be really good for dinner also. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I've had dinner there before. Okay. Yeah. We, we like it. We like it a lot. Um, so from there, oh, go ahead. No, I was just going to say you, you have a lot of question marks on this day. You were, you were, had a lot of like, maybe this, maybe that.

[01:16:58] Um, so I'm curious to see where this, where are you, where you turned to next given how many question marks I can see in my notes. I don't remember what those questions were. Uh, maybe splits fill, maybe spend time at Disney Springs, maybe go visit animal kingdom lodge, maybe pool time. Um, okay. So we did none of that. Um, we, we walked around after brunch.

[01:17:27] Um, we ended up walking over to Saratoga Springs. Yes. I showed him Saratoga and he said, I would stay here. And I was like, really? And he was like, yeah, he, and he really likes Disney Springs. Um, he is an eater. He loves to eat. He's not a shopper, but he likes the variety. Um, he likes the variety a lot.

[01:17:51] And, uh, it was evident this trip because we did that. We walked around, we went to Saratoga and then, um, he wanted a beer. Um, so we got one from wine bar George and we walked with it at their outside window.

[01:18:12] And then, um, I can't remember what else we did anyway, but he just, he likes the environment a lot and it's not for everybody. And I know that, but, um, I don't know. It's, it's fun to walk around there with him just to like, see, you know, where his mind goes next and where my mind goes next and how they align and all of that. So I don't know. It's, it's interesting to hear that he would stay there where the Polynesian was number one on his list.

[01:18:42] Cause there's such different resorts. Yeah. And you know, we were talking about your DVC tour and everything. And if you ever did consider buying retail, Saratoga Springs is one of the older resorts. So the contracts are not nearly as long and it's a huge resort. So it's, I think a good place to buy some points. If you know that you would want to, to be staying there anyway, I would say he needs to,

[01:19:11] he needs to try it himself though. Um, I like Saratoga. I really do. I prefer it a hundred times over to old Key West. Um, and especially when you're in the Congress park area where you, it's so easy to walk into Disney Springs. Um, that's just a really, really easy way to, to give yourself access to those things and

[01:19:36] be at a deluxe resort and have like a laid back feel because it's got a golf course and it feels, it feels a little away from things, even though it's right next to Disney Springs. Yes. Yep. So the last time we went on our Disney Springs day, we took the boat to old Key West and he was like, I don't think I'd want to stay here. And I was like, okay, like that's the point of all of this, right? Like yeah. Yeah.

[01:20:02] Visiting different resorts, you can cross them off your list. Cause if it's not your vibe, it's not your vibe and that's okay. Um, anyway, so it was, again, it was nice to take that walk and find my way this time. Um, and I, when I was there, I was not in Congress park. I was in, I don't know. I was pretty far away. I don't, grandstand maybe.

[01:20:30] Um, anyway, so we, we grabbed a drink at the, um, the basket I think it's called, which is wine bar George's, um, window. Yeah. Yeah. And we shared that at some sips. He, he had a lot of it. It was, I like sour beer and it, I'm pretty sure it was a sour beer. Um, and then we left Disney Springs probably around three. Oh, on the way out, we stopped at, he loves Guy Fieri.

[01:20:59] Um, so he has the chicken guy, I think it's called. Uh huh. So he grabbed some grilled chicken strips on the way out. Um, just for a snack for later. Um, so from there we planned to go to the pool, but the skies opened up and killed that plan. Um, so we ended up going to Tambu lounge. Um, but it was full.

[01:21:25] Um, so we went over to Wailulu, um, again, and we shared the poke bowl. That's why when you've said poke something, I was like, Ooh, um, I really liked it. It was so good. Um, and then on the way back to the room, we stopped at Tambu lounge and we had the, um, his favorite bread pudding again, which was fun. Um, for another rest day, we had close to 17,000 steps. So that was great.

[01:21:52] Um, Monday, the 13th. So the day before we left, um, we got up early and we had the best walk around the resort. Um, this is where I saw that the TTC was right there. Um, so anyway, it was just, it was interesting to learn the things I didn't know. Um, so we took a walk for a couple of miles. We ended up all over the Polynesian. We ended up at the grand Floridian.

[01:22:21] Um, I mobile ordered breakfast for him at captain cooks and I ordered myself from Kona. Um, and then we got coffee at the little, um, shop upstairs. We had breakfast on our porch and then we spent the day at the pool. Um, I met this very nice woman in the pool. Um, she started talking to me and I learned that she was from New York originally.

[01:22:45] And she just moved to South Carolina within the last five years and they're DVC owners and they drive down. And we've talked about moving south, um, you know, in a handful of years or so. And she was like, you should really look into, you know, the town she lives in and this and that. Um, she was just, she was so nice. But anyway, so we started talking about Disney Springs. She and I did. Um, and when we were kind of done with the pool, I was like, what do you want to do?

[01:23:15] And he's like, do you want to go back to Disney Springs? And I was like, yes, I do. Um, so we did some shopping. Um, we took the bus and then we did some shopping. Um, and then we ended up going to summer house on the lake for just some drinks and some snacks. Um, and then we left there around four. We had to pack up and just prepare for the next day because our flight the next morning was around eight o'clock. Yeah.

[01:23:40] And that's a pretty early morning flight to get from your resort over to the airport in time and take their little bonner rail or whatever they call it to get out to your, to your gate. So something I noticed on this trip, well, two things. I want to talk about that, but I took your advice and I pre-scheduled the lift. Good. Okay.

[01:24:05] So we did that and then we did, um, it's not the pre-check, but whatever the free. Uh huh. Um, I don't know what it's called, but you can, you can go on like the MCO website and schedule the time you're going to go through security. Yes. So we did that. Um, we flew, did we fly jet balloon? I think we, whatever we flew, we didn't have to take the tram either direction.

[01:24:34] So you were, you were in terminal C. Yeah. I never. The best terminal. I, well, that's good to know. Cause I never knew that before. And I was like, Oh, okay. Um, so that was, that was kind of cool. And I was like, all right. And it, it, it saves you a lot of time and you don't realize it in the moment.

[01:24:53] Um, the morning when we checked out, I got a little pop up from Lyft saying that they were going to pick us up at a building and I didn't know where the building was. Okay. So on our way out, I guess services is right there on the left. And I went to ask her and she was like, I don't, I don't want to say she was on her cell phone.

[01:25:22] Cause I don't know what, I don't know that what she was on, but like being in customer service and being in the, like, you know, people are walking toward you. Right. Like you feel someone, you hear it, you hear my suitcase. Like she couldn't even be bothered to look up and greet us. And I was like, especially at that time in the morning, I just want to point out that you were, I'm assuming one of the only people walking through the lobby at this point.

[01:25:52] Yes. Yeah. And I looked at Tom, I go, am I just annoyed at this point? And he said, no, he was like, the car. Customer service has been terrible. Um, so it was just, I feel bad saying it, but the way it started and having to stop and talk to them and just like, it is what it is.

[01:26:21] This is kind of what they were giving off. And then just like, you are so disinterested and so disconnected from like being here. We all have bad days. We all have days where we do not want to be at work. Like it just, yeah. It rubs you the wrong way. Especially when you are both at this point starting and ending your trip. Yes.

[01:26:49] With an experience like this, where it feels like people are not being attentive to you as the customer and the information you need or what has gone wrong or that sort of thing. Yes. And, and it, it wasn't just a singular incident, right? Right. It was the check in. It was, we don't know where your groceries are. It was the slider in the room. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I feel bad.

[01:27:20] Yeah. But I mean, the tower is a brand new resort. They should not have things like that that are not working. No. When we were at Animal Kingdom Lodge, I cannot remember what it was that wasn't working. I want to say, oh, I know we got back into the room one day and our air conditioning was off.

[01:27:48] And, you know, I thought for a second, because sometimes these things are, sometimes these things are like motion sensitive. So I'm like, well, maybe now that we're here, like dance around, it'll recognize like we're back in the room and it should come on. It was not coming on. So about five minutes and we were like, this is no, it's just actually not working.

[01:28:08] And so I called to the, I called down or I called the hotline or whatever, or maybe I even use the app to say what was going on. And, and I would say within, they said, we'll send somebody up. And we had plans to do something. I did not want to be sitting around. So I was like, well, you know, we're going to be good. Like, will they be here soon? And they were like, yeah, they're, they're, they're coming right up.

[01:28:37] So within 15 minutes or so, a maintenance person showed up at our room, fixed it right up and left. And that's what you expect. It's especially at Disney. And so I will be very interested to see what my experience is like in February, because what this sounds like to me, because you've said, again, it's not an ice. It's not an isolated incident. It's not like you had one experience with one person.

[01:29:02] This is now multiple people who made it, made you feel like what you needed or your question or whatever was not important enough to them. And so that says to me that it's a management issue. So I would like to touch on something you said where the tower is new. It is. So I would like to touch on something you said where the tower is new. It's a management issue. It's a management issue. It's a management issue.

[01:29:32] So we were on the sixth floor and there were trash cans, barrels, tins, whatever you want to call them outside of the elevator. And someone had clearly gotten a lot of food and paper bags and this and that. And those bags sat next to that barrel for at least two days. Wow. Yeah.

[01:29:57] And I realized, I realized that I'm complaining and I was very surprised by that. Uh huh. So I did something that I wouldn't normally do. Okay. I sent an email. Okay. And I documented the issues from the start.

[01:30:24] Because I, I don't know if I should have, but I, I wanted someone to be aware, right? Like, if I'm doing something wrong in my day to day, I can't correct it if you don't, if I'm not made aware. Right. And if I'm not there day to day and I'm not aware, someone else is going to leave feeling this way too. So I, I was not cranky. Mm-hmm.

[01:30:53] I just was, I, I expressed, I actually put my thoughts into ChatGPT and asked Chat to organize it for me. Mm-hmm. And it did. Um, and I read it, I read it to Tom and I sat on it and then I, I sent it maybe a day or two after I put it in. Cause I, I wanted to be sure that I was going to complain. And again, I don't, I don't want to complain. Mm-hmm.

[01:31:23] But again, like something you said was, you know, if everybody hears all the good, no one's going to trust you, blah, blah, blah. Right? Yeah. And I do think that there are a lot of creators out there and a lot of YouTube people and all of this, that everything's perfect, everything's amazing. And they set the expectation that everything is perfect. And it's Disney. Mm-hmm. Should everything be perfect? We should all be perfect, but we're human, right? Right.

[01:31:51] And the people, the cast members, everyone, they're human. We all make mistakes. Mm-hmm. So I sent an email and I sent it on a Friday night. Um, and I got an email back from someone in, I don't know, customer service, guest relations. I don't know exactly. Mm-hmm. And she said, please give me a little bit of time to look into this. So I did. Um, and I think a week or two went by and I didn't hear back. Mm-hmm.

[01:32:21] And I said, I just wanted to follow up. Because I didn't know if it was just an auto-generated response, right? Right. Um, it still could have been. But I said, you know, I just wanted to touch base. Um, you know, I sent this, I knew you were looking into it. Did you need anything else from me? I wasn't looking for anything. Right. But I also wanted to provide more information if she needed it. Mm-hmm. And she sent me an email back. What have I been back? Almost a month. I don't know.

[01:32:51] My time is fuzzy. So she sent me an email back and she said, you know, I appreciate the feedback, blah, blah, blah. I did look into this and she said, you know, I'm paraphrasing. A lot of this should not have happened. Right. And she offered me a gift card and that was not the point of my complaint. Mm-hmm. As petty as it sounds, I just wanted someone to be like, yeah, you're right.

[01:33:20] You know what I mean? Right. And to your point, you don't want someone else to go and have that kind of experience either. Yeah. And I think the fact that you, you sent this email, you took the time to make sure you were saying exactly what you wanted to say and that you were okay with hitting send on it. You took a couple days and you did it all after the trip was over. So there's no expectation that you're asking for, you know, caught me a meal at Ohana or whatever.

[01:33:48] It's like, it's purely for, I want to be sure that you have the opportunity to fix this because if you don't know that it's going on to me, a good general manager of a resort is going to be on top of these kind of things. Even so much as like, they may not know about the things where it's like, Oh, they couldn't find my groceries. They don't know if somebody tells them, but what they should know is I'm walking around. I see trash.

[01:34:15] Like, like that should be bare, but like any manager should be able to see that and go, what's going on here? Why has that not been cleaned up? Yeah. Yeah. And it, again, just because it's deluxe for Disney, it doesn't mean, I think deluxe Disney and deluxe outside of Disney are two very different things. Right.

[01:34:39] And the thing with Disney is for years, there was such a high expectation when it came to guest services and the way their cast members carried themselves. Mm hmm. And I'm not saying every cast member is bad. It just like in my industry, not everyone's great. Not everyone's bad. Same with yours. Right.

[01:35:07] Um, but to consistently feel that they just didn't want to be there. Right. Yeah. But I mean, what I, what I have seen is that at the Disney resorts, like any resort, if that general manager, it really, like who is leading the team at that specific resort makes a difference

[01:35:33] because you can see in like my stay at wilderness lodge, let's say, um, versus another resort. It, it feels different. And it's all about how that person leads their team. Yes. They have their customer service standards that they're learning through Disney when they're onboarded, but once they're actually at their location, that person that's there and is

[01:36:01] with them every day is really who's setting the tone and making sure that they keep those standards going. I mean, those can get fuzzy if you're not, you know, staying brushed up on it. So, yes, yes, I agree with all of that. And it's, it's interesting because we, when on our last trip together, we stayed at the

[01:36:30] boardwalk and I picked the boardwalk because of location, right? Walkability to two parks, things to do in the vicinity of different restaurants, this and that. Um, and, and we, we sat on our balcony all the time that week. Like we sat on our balcony the whole week. We could see Epcot, the fireworks, everything.

[01:36:54] So I said, would you prefer the boardwalk or the Polynesian? He goes, I wouldn't stay at the Polynesian again. And I was like, okay. And it, I asked those questions because it's helpful to see where his, his head's at too, just to make sure we're on the same page when I'm planning. Right. But like he was so excited to stay at the Polynesian and did this take away from our trip?

[01:37:24] No, clearly we still had a great time. Did it impact certain pieces of it? Sure. Um, did it kind of set it off on the, the, the wrong, you know, fought the wrong tone? The initial interaction with the cast member definitely made me a little sour, right?

[01:37:48] Um, but you have to move on from it because you can't let, you can't let one experience ruin your whole trip because they've already stopped thinking about it. You can't think about it the whole week. They don't care. You know what I mean? Like they've already moved on from it. So it's, it's managing expectations. And I say that all the time, like we walked into magic kingdom. I'm like, we need to manage our expectations. We've walked into Epcot. We need to manage our expectations. There's going to be people with bad behavior.

[01:38:18] There's going to be crowds, but we're going to have a lot of fun regardless. It's just, it's, it, you know, it's balancing all of that. And it, it's tough because you don't want a note in your file saying this person complained, like watch out for them. Um, but you also want to be honest and yeah.

[01:38:40] And I think that like when, when you're talking about a place like Disney and particularly these, these spaces within Disney that you may be holed up on a pedestal because you haven't experienced it yet. So in your mind, you're like, this is going to be amazing. We're finally getting to stay there.

[01:38:57] You have to manage your expectations and you have to understand that when you're listening to different sources that you might have out there, podcasts, YouTube, all of that, take everything with a grain of salt. Yeah. And if you are only paying attention to something where they only talk about the good stuff, like find somebody who does complain about it. So you can kind of have a more realistic sense of what you're going to get. Yeah.

[01:39:25] And then you kind of have to just say, I'm going to manage my expectations. I'm going to go in and regardless of what happens, I'm going to try to have some sort of control over how I feel about my trip. Yeah. And just keep that positive mindset going because in spite of these things, like you said, you still had an amazing time. Yeah. You guys had so much fun. You got so much done. Yeah.

[01:39:47] So it's, it's not like it ruined your trip, but partially the reason it didn't ruin your trip is because you were carrying that mindset with you from the get go. Yeah. So yeah. I encourage others to do the same. And I will say this just to bring it back to, we initially had a multi split stay planned, right? Mm-hmm . I said to Tom, are you glad that we stayed at the Polynesian the entire time?

[01:40:15] I said, or do you wish that we had switched over to Coronado? And he said, no, he said, I'm glad that we did this. I said, okay. I was like, and that's helpful because one had he said, no, I wish we had switched over. I would have felt like crap because I made the executive decision without consulting you. Right. Um, so it's, it's things like that. I don't know.

[01:40:46] Mm-hmm . How many times can you second guess your plans, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can't go back. Like there's no way to change anything that happened, anything. But what I, what I would take away from that is regardless of what happened at the resort and the fact that he said he doesn't want to do the Polynesian again, I would take away from it. He appreciated not having to get up and move, you know, multiple times, which that is not for everybody. No. So, um, that's good to know.

[01:41:15] I will also add this. I don't, even though we only switched rooms, I don't think I would ever do a split stay again. Mm. Really? Okay. And not for any reason other than it's hard enough to pack and then you have to cram all your stuff back into the suitcase that's this big, you know what I mean? Uh-huh. It's, how do you, how do you, you know, how do you do that?

[01:41:45] So, um. And potentially not have access to your things for a certain portion of the day and yeah, there's pluses and minuses to it. So it was definitely, like, I looked at him, I was like, um, one of these backpacks is coming to the park with us. All of the things that were in that backpack need to end up in a suitcase. The suitcases are busting at the seams. So what we did actually was the DVC tour, he gave us one of those reusable bags. Uh-huh. We put all of our dirty laundry in that.

[01:42:13] Like, in a trash bag in that so it wasn't, like, spilling over. Uh-huh. Um, and it worked. I was like, oh, this is actually a really good idea. Good thing to be on that DVC tour. So, anyway. Yeah. Yeah. So that's, it, overall it was a good trip. Um, we both left, um, and said we're good for a while. Okay. How long do you think it will be before you head back to the parks?

[01:42:42] Um, and I asked that knowing that you might, given how much you enjoyed your, your solo trip, it, it doesn't necessarily have to be you two as a couple. When will, when will you, Kim, next set foot into a park, do you think? So, I'm struggling with this. Technically, I have a bounce back offer scheduled for July. Oh, okay. Do not think that we will use it. Okay. But I wanted the option. Um. You have it just in case. Yeah.

[01:43:11] Um, we have been in talks, so typically what we've been doing the last few years anyway is we'll fly one year and then we'll go to the mountains. One year we'll fly one year and go to the mountains. So this coming year is our mountains year to take our dogs. Um, but we've also been in talks of maybe going to Pittsburgh to see like a Kenny Chesney concert or something. Um, so in reality it will probably be in two years, but I, I don't know the answer to that.

[01:43:41] Um, we both said that we, we were good for a while, but I also have been looking at trips in the last two weeks. So I don't know the answer to that. Yeah. It doesn't hurt to have one on the books. No. Their cancellation policy is very generous. Exactly. Exactly. So that's where we're at right now. I don't know for sure. So. Well, thank you so much for sharing everything that you did about this trip.

[01:44:09] I think it's really valuable for people to hear all different kinds of experiences and you got a lot of downtime on this trip. I, which I really appreciate just like a lot of wandering and sitting and people watching and enjoying food. And I, I encourage everyone to, you know, really consider who you have on your trip and how you're going to feel at the end of it.

[01:44:36] Um, if you are go, go, go the entire time, like give yourself the opportunity to just chill a little bit. So thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. This was fun. Thank you so much to Kim for both being a loyal listener and for being a first time guest. It was a pleasure having you on the show. That is all for this week, folks. Please don't forget to share the show with others.

[01:45:03] And as always keep daydreaming about where you long to be.

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